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Monday, August 28, 2006
Give Up on Catholicism
I guess we should have seen this coming when they removed George Coyne as Vatican astronomer last week (he is a real scientist working within the Vatican as a science advisor).
The Nazi Pope, Ratfinger or whatever his name is, is planning to embrace intelligent design. This will mark yet another glorious moment in the history of Catholic Church. Once again when faced with the choice of joining the modern world, embracing reality, rationality and truth, they will have chosen irrationality, unreality, and a medieval view of the world. No amount of data will convince them! Next on the chopping block, they're going to retract their apology to Gallileo and reject the Copernican revolution, and because it's the Pope, he's infallible so you know it's true. Is there any better proof that the Pope isn't in possession of a bat-phone to god than the wholesale rejection of science and reason? Condoms cause AIDS, and ID is correct? Next are they going to take Noah's Ark literally? |
3 Comments:
Shows your ignorance. You don't know why the Vatican astronomer left - you just asssume. Galileo was not chastized because of his beliefs about the universe (the church needs to be concerned about how a change in thought about the universe will affect its believers so it is naturally cautious - it wanted more proof not speculation from Galileo) He was just a nasty tempered man (as good as he was) who did not heed the church's cautious tone. You don't yet know what the pope will say about God's presence in creation and ongoing evolution ideas of world development - you just assume - like you do about conservatives. Ignorance creates more ignorance.
2:08 PM, August 28, 2006
Bwahahahahaha. Nice revisionist history there, chief.
Galileo's last trial was spurred by his indirect mockery of the Pope via his "Simplicius" character, but in the end he was indeed ordered to recant for heresy. You're making it sound like he just got sent a stinging letter of rejection from the editor of a journal. "Please resubmit this manuscript when these concerns over the quality of your data have been addressed, and when YOU ARE NO LONGER POSSESSED BY THE DEVIL AND ALL HIS HORNY LITTLE MINIONS!"
An assumption it may be, but assumptions based on past behavior tend to be more solid than assumptions based on whatever revisionist church pamphlet you read.
3:19 PM, August 28, 2006
Actually the article suggests exactly why he left:
A few months later, Cardinal Schönborn, who is regarded as being close to Benedict, wrote an article for the New York Times backing moves to teach ID. He was attacked by Father George Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory. On August 19, Fr Coyne was replaced without explanation. Vatican sources said the Pope's former astronomer, who has cancer, had asked to be replaced.
Ahh, the old spend more time with the family, got cancer excuse. More likely he just pissed off the cardinal and being a lowly priest got sacked.
I also like how lobo not only is totally misinformed about what happened to Gallileo, but also just rails about how we're ignorant.
I'm not exactly sure what I'm ignorant of in this case. Science? Intelligent Design? Evolution? What? Maybe I'm ignorant about Catholocism? Hmm, even so, the mere fact they're considering ID is a scary scary sign for a church that is just barely getting into the 20th century, meanwhile, we're all up here in the 21st. It's not about creation here, the Popa could say God created man through evolution (unproveable but scientifically inoffensive). That they're considering ID is what is deserving of mockery. Even thinking about incorporating that into their dogma is just a giant leap back.
3:44 PM, August 28, 2006
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