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Haggard update
 Looks like Haggard probably is gay and visited this prostitute. A sudden about-face in the scandal facing New Life Church's pastor.
After Pastor Ted Haggard went public Wednesday night denying allegations of a homosexual affair, senior church officials told KKTV 11News Thursday evening, Pastor Ted Haggard has admitted to some of the claims made by a former male escort. The church's Acting Senior Pastor, Ross Parsley, tells KKTV 11 News that Pastor Haggard has admitted to some of the indiscretions claimed by Mike Jones, but not all of them. Ahhh, schadenfreude. When will we learn to just automatically assume that the people that have the biggest problems with homosexuality are always the biggest closet cases? And it sounds like the drug thing may be true too. From 9news and via boingboing. The voice mails for from a man who calls himself "Art."
It should be noted Haggard's middle name is Arthur.
The first voice message, left on August 4 at 2:18 p.m., says:
"Hi Mike, this is Art. Hey, I was just calling to see if we could get any more. Either $100 or $200 supply. And I could pick it up really anytime I could get it tomorrow or we could wait till next week sometime and so I also wanted to get your address. I could send you some money for inventory but that's probably not working, so if you have it then go ahead and get what you can and I may buzz up there later today, but I doubt your schedule would allow that unless you have some in the house. Okay, I'll check in with you later. Thanks a lot, bye."
The second voice message, left on August 4 at 5:10 p.m., says:
"Hi Mike, this is Art, I am here in Denver and sorry that I missed you. But as I said, if you want to go ahead and get the stuff, then that would be great. And I'll get it sometime next week or the week after or whenever. I will call though you early next week to see what's most convenient for you. Okay? Thanks a lot, bye."
Jones claims Art is referring to methamphetamine in the messages.
9NEWS had a nationally known voice recognition expert, Richard Sanders, listen to the voice mails to determine if it is Haggard. Sanders has previously worked on such high profile cases as the Oklahoma City bombing trial, the Columbine High School shootings, the JonBenet Ramsey murder investigation, and the Kobe Bryant case.
"This certainly sounds like the same person," said Sanders, after listening to the voice mails.
In his final report, Sanders found that of 12 single words that were the same on both recordings, nine of those words were perfect matches. He also found that the entire phrase, "I don't know," was also a precise match. Now a lot of people, including PZ are saying that this isn't truly awesome, because it's reinforcing this idea that there is something wrong with gay sex, and that it won't have an effect on vile idiocy and bile that is preached by these guys all the time. While this is true, the anti-schadenfreude crowd must realize that when a bigoted hypocrite is exposed as that which he has railed against, it actually is a pretty powerful lesson in reaction formation. That is, the people who get really upset about gays are the ones that are the closet cases. Normal heterosexual people who are comfortable in their sexuality could care less what other people do in their bedrooms. It's the ones that aren't quite sure of themselves, or who know that their lives might just be a lie that get really upset about the private consensual relationships of others.
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3 Comments:
Playing the devil's advocate here though,
We all pretty much knew that already [that the most virulent homophobes often tend to have a little secret of their own]. But what happens to the rank-and-file bigots when so many "family values" heroes go down like this (so to speak)?
Will they see the error of their ways and maybe accept their burgeoning man-love?
Or will they just retreat further into prejudice, and a siege mentality that you "can't trust no FAGIT nohow"?
And ultimately, schadenfreude is really just the wrong human reaction to have -- it'll just alienate a lot of people secretly grappling with their sexuality, and their behavior will continue to manifest in harmful ways (visits to prostitutes alternating with some manner of self-flagellation or outward bigotry).
I'd be dishonest if I said I wasn't secretly relishing these recent scandals, but what's most critical is that we be supportive and not standoffish.
12:07 PM, November 03, 2006
minimalist,
Are you saying that instead of laughing behind our hands we should show up at his door with a pair of cutoffs, a tube top, some red wine and introduce him to the girls?
Because that would be fun, and funny too. Welcome to your new life Artie!
1:02 PM, November 03, 2006
I love you.
(In a purely platonic way of course! The way God intended!)
8:57 PM, November 03, 2006
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